Who Put the “Core” in Metalcore?
So this whole metal fad has been around since about 2000, and ever since I have had one nagging question. Who are the hard-core bands that influenced the breakdowns of metal-core and lets face it modern metal as we know it? This question has never been answered. I hear both influences in various bands, and I know where the metal came from *hem hem At the Gates, but who are these hard-core bands? Pantera did breadkdowns, Metallica did breakdowns, Cannibal Corpse did them, Suffocation did them, Earth Crisis did them, and they were tinted with death metal, Slayer, Testament the list goes on.
Unless evidence is provided, the evidence points to the fact that breakdowns are not hard-core at all, but in fact are a product of metal.
Hi.. What a cool post..
I love metal core..
I wanna ask you..
What’s the difference between metalcore and hardcore? I just know that metal core have more double pedal in drum n more melody in guitar.. And hardcore have a simple music.. Is that right?
Well, hard-core is harder to define these days. Originally in the late 70’s and early 80’s hard-core was just a short form of hard-core punk. Teens in California were disappointed about how punk had become mainstream and it didn’t embody their strife anymore. So they started their own bands that were what they thought punk should sound like. These were bands like Black Flag, Circle Jerks and of course Bad Brains. This music was defined by being fast, simple and aggressive. Bands like Bad Brains still managed to be talented and creative within that limited framework.
Today some bands still sound like that, but some people wanted to do something more with it. Bands like Underoath, Further Seems Forever and A Sky Lit Drive are great examples of what is known as “Post-Hardcore”. Where there is speed and aggression and a definitely punk sound mixed with clean vocals, more intricate melody and in general more creativity that can’t be captured within “Hard-core”.
Metal-core differs from straight Hard-core and Post-hardcore because Metal-core is really just metal, speedy guitars, intricate song structures and riffs. Riffs are very much what metalcore is made of and that is metal. Talent on all instruments and such. Metal core is metal that borrows elements of hard-core or vice versa. For instance Killswitch Engage does some screamed hard-core vocals and punk drum beats, the influence of hard-core is limited. Then again, with a band like say Hatebreed, they are a Hard-core band with elements of metal. Riffs, metal like precision with instrumentation, but thats pretty much where it ends.
The problem is that both bands would be considered metal-core, the term is way too general.
Hope that helps, I thoroughly enjoyed answering the question.
Well i have to ask what, by definition, a breakdown is because these days i get so many different answer by people with backgrounds in music that i am seriously confused. I must admit that i am not that technically inclined when it comes to metal, so in order to really understand the difference between the “cores” i need to know what constitutes a breakdown. Thanks. K
A breakdown occurs in heavy music either in metal or hardcore and their sub genres. It’s when the whole groove and melody of the song becomes simplified. So when the string are just doing one note in a very percussive manner matching the bass drum pattern.
So for an example Metallica’s One, when the just groove and James is singing “taken my sight, taken my …” That duh duh duh duh duh duh part, thats a break down.
Or in the Lamb of God’s Black Label or anything by Bury Your Dead. Just that groovy percussive open note thing.